what do you expect from the obama campaign over the course of the next few days, and on the heels of this number in particular? >> well, it certainly gives him something to talk b. i think that you'd have to say while clear light seems to me as at least one viewer that romney beat obama in the debate, on the day-to-day campaigning i think the obama campaign has been more effective. the president has been more effective than romney on the stump, i think his ads have been more effective which is why he has opened up a lead. we'll see how well that lead stands up when we see the first post debate polls but he's been more effective. romney has to get better at the day-to-day campaigning and of course you have the vice presidental debate next thursday and the following week the second presidential debate. romney and ryan have got to come back just as strong as they were in this first debate and they have to get better at the day-to-day campaigning, the blocking and tackling if you will of political running for office. martha: all right. chris, interesting stuff and we look forward to seei